Киевските власти са претърпели военно поражение в източна Украйна, пише Шпигел, позовавайки се на мнението на висш генерал от НАТО, пожелал анонимност.
Във военно отношение Киев загуби конфликта, убеден е натовецът.
Изданието изтъква, че ръководството на Алианса е било принудено да направи нова оценка на военната ситуация в източната част на Украйна.
На президента Порошенко остава единствената възможност да води преговори, за да освободи хората си от клещите на руснаците, коментира генералът.
На практика Киев е изгубил контрола над своите източни територии, заключава изданието.
Шпигел отбелязва още, че НАТО обръща особено внимание в момента на бойните действия в района на големия промишлен център Мариупол, към който са се придвижили сепаратистите.
НаблюдателЕ
на 03.09.2014 в 08:23:56 #75@ биг папа: Без цитати на американския тролл/арменския еврей Артем Геодакян (Аркадий Бабченко)...
Big Papa original
на 03.09.2014 в 00:28:23 #74Аз съм истинският Биг Папа , други Биг Папи няма ! Ония долу двамата са ментета. Това ТМ означава Тъп Мангал О господи, само на нас давай на другите не давай. Другите са лоши господи ! Арапчетата ще работят, ние ще ядем господи. Ние сме твърдо зад твоята справедлива кауза господи ! Ти си знаеш работата, Амин господи !
europe
на 03.09.2014 в 00:21:01 #73Абе това tm какво означава? Да не би да е transecsual modelo?
Альфа
на 03.09.2014 в 00:18:31 #72Биг Лапа айде върви си вземи вечерната доза и лягай да спиш,че не ти е полезно да седиш до толкоз късно.
europe
на 03.09.2014 в 00:16:20 #71AlanSmith | 02.09.2014 23:11 Big Papa, след толкова копи/пейст, акъл остана ли ти ? Е ти пък, биг папа и акъл.
AlanSmith
на 03.09.2014 в 00:11:58 #70Big Papa, след толкова копи/пейст, акъл остана ли ти ?
europe
на 02.09.2014 в 23:53:09 #69https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJkeTEIUJhY
europe
на 02.09.2014 в 23:44:13 #68В Одеса се подготвя прогонване на режима и самоуправление.
europe
на 02.09.2014 в 23:41:32 #67Вig Рара tm | 02.09.2014 22:39 Нашата основна грижа е благоденствието на Украйна ! А това е възможно само с подкрепата на братска Русия другари! Да така е, това и децата го знаят. Тоз биг папа можел да мисли и с главата.
dante_18
на 02.09.2014 в 22:55:47 #66Важното е да мрът славиянски свине. За предпочитане е да са руснаци. Живи и здрави!
Юлиан-3
на 02.09.2014 в 22:39:35 #65дидилота, "чаршафи" би трябвало да значи документиране на неприятни истини? ....случи се логичното- украинската армия се разпадна, резервна няма, НАТО кърши кълки....изходът за Украйна е един - рускоговорящите да се разкаят, да сдадат оръжията, а Путин да даде тръбите от ЮП за Набуко!....дет се вика - а дано!....
dddddd
на 02.09.2014 в 21:00:58 #64Един пляска чаршафи на английски, друг на съветски, остава и на арабски да започне да се мърля във форума на нюза.
C#
на 02.09.2014 в 20:21:28 #63Ex-NSA Director, US Intelligence Veterans Write Open Letter To Merkel To Avoid All-Out Ukraine War http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-01/ex-nsa-director-us-intelligence-veterans-write-open-letter-merkel-avoid-all-out-ukra
C#
на 02.09.2014 в 19:45:27 #62Ex-NSA Director, US Intelligence Veterans Write Open Letter To Merkel To Avoid All-Out Ukraine Alarmed at the anti-Russian hysteria sweeping Washington, and the specter of a new Cold War, U.S. intelligence veterans one of whom is none other than William Binney, the former senior NSA crypto-mathematician who back in March 2012 blew the whistle on the NSA's spying programs more than a year before Edward Snowden, took the unusual step of sending the following memo dated August 30 to German Chancellor Merkel challenging the reliability of Ukrainian and U.S. media claims about a Russian "invasion." Via AntiWar and ConsortiumNews, highlights ours MEMORANDUM FOR: Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany FROM: Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) SUBJECT: Ukraine and NATO We the undersigned are longtime veterans of U.S. intelligence. We take the unusual step of writing this open letter to you to ensure that you have an opportunity to be briefed on our views prior to the NATO summit on September 4-5. You need to know, for example, that accusations of a major Russian "invasion" of Ukraine appear not to be supported by reliable intelligence. Rather, the "intelligence" seems to be of the same dubious, politically "fixed" kind used 12 years ago to "justify" the U.S.-led attack on Iraq. We saw no credible evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq then; we see no credible evidence of a Russian invasion now. Twelve years ago, former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, mindful of the flimsiness of the evidence on Iraqi WMD, refused to join in the attack on Iraq. In our view, you should be appropriately suspicions of charges made by the US State Department and NATO officials alleging a Russian invasion of Ukraine. President Barack Obama tried yesterday to cool the rhetoric of his own senior diplomats and the corporate media, when he publicly described recent activity in the Ukraine, as "a continuation of what’s been taking place for months now … it’s not really a shift." Obama, however, has only tenuous control over the policymakers in his administration – who, sadly, lack much sense of history, know little of war, and substitute anti-Russian invective for a policy. One year ago, hawkish State Department officials and their friends in the media very nearly got Mr. Obama to launch a major attack on Syria based, once again, on "intelligence" that was dubious, at best. Largely because of the growing prominence of, and apparent reliance on, intelligence we believe to be spurious, we think the possibility of hostilities escalating beyond the borders of Ukraine has increased significantly over the past several days. More important, we believe that this likelihood can be avoided, depending on the degree of judicious skepticism you and other European leaders bring to the NATO summit next week. Experience With Untruth Hopefully, your advisers have reminded you of NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen’s checkered record for credibility. It appears to us that Rasmussen’s speeches continue to be drafted by Washington. This was abundantly clear on the day before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq when, as Danish Prime Minister, he told his Parliament: "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction. This is not something we just believe. We know." Photos can be worth a thousand words; they can also deceive. We have considerable experience collecting, analyzing, and reporting on all kinds of satellite and other imagery, as well as other kinds of intelligence. Suffice it to say that the images released by NATO on August 28 provide a very flimsy basis on which to charge Russia with invading Ukraine. Sadly, they bear a strong resemblance to the images shown by Colin Powell at the UN on February 5, 2003 that, likewise, proved nothing. That same day, we warned President Bush that our former colleague analysts were "increasingly distressed at the politicization of intelligence" and told him flatly, "Powell’s presentation does not come close" to justifying war. We urged Mr. Bush to "widen the discussion … beyond the circle of those advisers clearly bent on a war for which we see no compelling reason and from which we believe the unintended consequences are likely to be catastrophic." Consider Iraq today. Worse than catastrophic. Although President Vladimir Putin has until now showed considerable reserve on the conflict in the Ukraine, it behooves us to remember that Russia, too, can "shock and awe." In our view, if there is the slightest chance of that kind of thing eventually happening to Europe because of Ukraine, sober-minded leaders need to think this through very carefully. If the photos that NATO and the US have released represent the best available "proof" of an invasion from Russia, our suspicions increase that a major effort is under way to fortify arguments for the NATO summit to approve actions that Russia is sure to regard as provocative. Caveat emptor is an expression with which you are no doubt familiar. Suffice it to add that one should be very cautious regarding what Mr. Rasmussen, or even Secretary of State John Kerry, are peddling. We trust that your advisers have kept you informed regarding the crisis in Ukraine from the beginning of 2014, and how the possibility that Ukraine would become a member of NATO is anathema to the Kremlin. According to a February 1, 2008 cable (published by WikiLeaks) from the US embassy in Moscow to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, US Ambassador William Burns was called in by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who explained Russia’s strong opposition to NATO membership for Ukraine. Lavrov warned pointedly of "fears that the issue could potentially split the country in two, leading to violence or even, some claim, civil war, which would force Russia to decide whether to intervene." Burns gave his cable the unusual title, "NYET MEANS NYET: RUSSIA’S NATO ENLARGEMENT REDLINES," and sent it off to Washington with IMMEDIA
KLF
на 02.09.2014 в 19:18:55 #61Жалко за България. И тя ще иде курбан, както майдановци и пасажерие на малоазийския самолет.
KLF
на 02.09.2014 в 19:13:59 #60Абе няма такава тишина, както тази за сваления малоазийски самолет. Мръсни евроатлантически номерца. Жалко за жертвите.
KLF
на 02.09.2014 в 19:08:08 #59Каква новина. И пак на чист евроатлантически: Оууууууууууууууууъъъъъъъъ Йеееееееееееееааааааааааааааааа!!!
Пища Хуфнагел
на 02.09.2014 в 18:57:55 #58SS 3 | 02.09.2014 17:51 А може би в Кремъл?
Пища Хуфнагел
на 02.09.2014 в 18:18:17 #57шевкед | 02.09.2014 17:00 Украинците се стегнаха и в момента Русия масово нарушава собственото си ембарго - колони с хладилни камиони внасят от Украйна месо. Трупно месо.
шевкед
на 02.09.2014 в 18:00:51 #56Абе то и генерал Гудериан, като беше на 18 км от Масква немците мислеха, че руснаците са загубили войната, но Ленд-Лийза и сыузническата солидарност показа друго. Проблемът е там, че позволиха на Путин твърде много да се разлигави.